The Cauldron of the Resurrection

A Video Recording of this Message (First Part)

A Video Recording of this Message (Second Part)

May 2, 2010

Mr. Yordy
Is it possible you are already resurrected and don't realize it or understand it? Your writings and audio contain some excellent material and  understanding. You demonstrate Christ in you as a reality and yet as I read your teaching you are still waiting to be resurrected. Are you interested in pursuing this discussion? Have I misunderstood your resurrection ideas?

Jim

Jim,
Thank you for your interest and question.

We call those things that be not as though they are. Yes, our completed state exists fully before God right now. We are becoming what we already are.

Jesus was the Lamb slain from before the foundation of the world. Yet God did not count that reality directly for human experience until red corpuscles mixed with the dirt of this earth.

God created this earth, placed man under vanity, and gave you and me flesh for a purpose. God is after something, something that He cannot get just by speaking a word in the way that He creates everything else. That something is illustrated through a number of pictures - a butterfly pressing against its chrysalis until it is cast off, a bride coming out of the wilderness leaning on her Beloved, the life of Jesus revealed in my mortal flesh, the pain and agony of a woman crying out to be delivered of her child, His strength made perfect in my weakness.

There is certainly a large element of the resurrection that is spirit, that is, of a heavenly substance. In that part of the resurrection we do walk right now, but that is a walking by faith. Faith means we do not necessarily see it with our eyes.

But, ultimately, just as God required red corpuscles in the dirt of the earth, so the resurrection is utterly physical. It is the bringing of all that God is into the physicality of this earth. It is the redemption of the body. It is the mortal body, that is my dying flesh, that the Holy Spirit is working the resurrection life of Jesus into right now.

Now, that is an incredible statement, because I don't, and have never seen (apart from an occasional miraculous healing) any outward sign of that working in my physical body or anyone else's. My body is just like yours, it is getting older, more tired, and tending toward the grave.

A kingdom that is "spiritual" only has no appeal to me. "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven." This earth is my inheritance. I want to see the curse removed from it and all demons; I want to walk upon this earth in a physical body that is completely physical, yet as fully resurrected as Jesus' body. I want to see plants and animals released to be what they really are. I want to hear the mountains sing and the plains rejoice in His glory. I want to see the power and place of wicked men to hurt and manipulate others totally removed. I want to see centuries upon this planet with no such thing anywhere. This is an essential part of my inheritance.

I want to open the door for all to follow after into a reality that is real in all the physicality of this world and not "mystical" or "spiritual" only.

Right now we are in the womb of the church. That is the best picture of where we are. We are, already, everything that we shall be. We declare all things as they really are, though we see nothing as yet. When our spirit was made alive, we were conceived in the womb. When our body is made alive that is when we come forth in the full light of day. Then we shall see all things as they really are. (And she brought forth a male child, and her child was caught up to God and to His throne.)

But right now, here, in the womb, here is found the entire purpose and intention of God. We do not see anything as it really is, except that we have heard what God speaks. It is dancing in victory before we see it with our eyes, convinced that what God says is true, though we see it not, standing in faith, casting down every voice that speaks otherwise, speaking what God speaks, light in the midst of darkness, love in the midst of hate, this is the great cauldron that God has carefully prepared in order to form that most very precious thing that He can have no other way.

More than just the child in the womb, however, everything concerning God and us is found inside the point of the labor of bringing that child to birth. Pressing through the birth canal, at the place of utmost pain, is where we are.

There are two points of contention upon which God has placed everything concerning the Word that He speaks and concerning us. Both of those points of issue are regarding the inheritance. But one point of conflict is spirit and in the heavens, and the other point of conflict is flesh and in the earth. Both points of contention will by won by us by the Spirit and by faith, in very similar ways.

God demands proof of Himself in the earth. We are His proof.

But the victory in the heavens comes first. That moment of winning is found in Revelation 12, it is the casting down of the accuser out of both our heavens and out of all the heavens of God. I suspect that means Satan and his demons becoming physical and earthy. The second moment of winning is found in Revelation 11, and that is the battle over the inheritance on this earth.

"Come, let us kill Him, that the inheritance may be ours." "Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the free woman." "What shall their return be but life from the dead."

Most people live in utter ignorance of the reality of how things operate upon this earth. But all that God speaks, He speaks into that which is, not into that which is carefully fabricated nonsense. Because people don't understand things as they really are, they have no idea what God is talking about. And it is a waste of time to try to explain it to most. But this is all of God. We do what God has called us to do and leave the worrying about others in the hands of our most capable Savior.

I know that there is a large segment of thinking among Christians that the kingdom is all spiritual and has no immediate outworking in the physical, that the wicked machinations of this world and all the hurt and cruelty just go on and on, that all that God is is to be found in a spiritual ideal, that dying and going into the grave is the only release into the "next realm."

Then, there are many who turn around and imagine that bringing forth "the kingdom" in the earth involves moving as present Christians into the political realms and making the world "Christian."

By God's grace, I receive all who belong to Jesus in the same way that He receives me. But I have no interest in or connection with either of those ways of thinking. And it is my right and my responsibility before God to speak that which God has placed in my heart without coming under the shadow of other voices.

I am convinced that the strongest voice whispering in the church today is the words, "Go to sleep. Sleep. Sleep." John says that part of the spirit of anti-Christ is to remove "Christ" from the physical reality of flesh upon this earth.

Everything wants to get our eyes off the battle, off of standing firmly upon the insistence that we are not satisfied, we will not rest, we will not lay down our weapons, until we see all hurt and every part of the curse removed from off this planet in all physical actuality. (Even entering into His rest is presented to us by the Holy Spirit as a battle.)

I am no more resurrected than you are. The proof is in the pudding. A resurrected body is one that does not die physically, one that never grows old nor is ever weary or sick. A resurrected body is one that can enjoy  all the fruit of the earth, but is not limited or bound by the earth and can go with us throughout all the heavens as well.

But truth is not discovered by debate. I can certainly talk on the phone, but God has made me weak. When I can ponder and seek the Lord as I do when I write, I can speak clearly out of my spirit. But when I come into connection with strong individuals, I do not know very well how to speak and I am unable to draw from the gentle Spirit of Christ within me. I have always kept my mouth shut in such situations.

There is a well of truth inside of me, as there is in you. Those who desire to draw from the well God has placed in me, I welcome with all joy. But there are always those who prefer to muddy the waters for one reason or another, and, just as with Nehemiah, who was invited to discuss "truth" in the temple of God, I have such responsibility upon the wall that I cannot take the time to go.

A good and timely question such as you ask here will open that well and I can write. But debate immediately closes that well for me. There have been times when it has been weeks before I could open it again. And I have so much to share and so little time to share it that I have no desire to come under that shadow again.

Thank you, again, for your question. I bless you in all the revelation of Jesus Christ inside of you.

Daniel Yordy